stealthgoat
Can anyone confirm one way or the other if the 70432 models are shipping with synthetic oil already in them? Reason I'm asking is because the manual is stating under recommended oil, the only oil listed is synthetic 5w30. and I want to add the cold weather kit to it, but if shipped with synthetic then I won't change oil and filter until the first service.
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Ron Goldstein Rongold
I was wondering the same thing. I have a 70431 that was installed 2 months ago. I have run the wiring for the battery & oil filter heaters, but have not yet connected them. Since the generator's installation, the unit has less than 1 hour of running time---only exercises. I really don't want to change the oil yet, due to the short running time on the engine. The nights are starting to get cold here in NY already---predicted to be in the 40's next week. If the engine has synthetic oil in already, I will just connect the heaters. If the engine has dino (non-synthetic) oil in it, I guess I will have to change it. Does anyone know for sure what oil is in these generators from the factory ???

RON
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stealthgoat
I'm right there with ya Ron, I'm in the same predicament. What little info the manual has sure looks like they do ship with synthetic oil.
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grsthegreat
They are Not shipped with synthetic oil. I have been told that you can add synthetic oil right away if your using a winter kit, and it does not affect warranty. On my own personal unit, i didn't install winter kit until the following year so i didn't have to worry about it. I hear so many different ideas about when to add a synthetic oil that it gets real confusing.
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restosud
i thought they were shipped with synthetic.
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patmurphey
Do they still say to switch to synthetic with the cold weather kit? If they do that might be a clue. :rolleyes:
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SouthLake
Changing the oil takes 1.9 quarts of oil, a new filter, and about 15 minutes. If you are worried about it, just change the oil and install the winter kit?
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78buckshot
The last time I had a conversation about air cooled break-in with tech support they told me dino oil for 20-30 hours then switch to synthetic, so from that I would assume dino is the factory fill.
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Peddler
All the units for the last several years have had synthetic from the factory.
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Cobranut
Modern engines don't really need an extensive break-in period.
The biggest reason for using dino oil for the initial fill is cost.
Since you're going to change the oil fairly soon, there's no point in paying for synthetic oil for the initial fill.

If I installed a new unit in the fall, I'd have no problem installing the engine heater and continuing to run the dino oil through the first winter.
If you live in an EXTREMELY cold climate, it's worth it to go ahead and change to synthetic, as one of its main advantages is it flows easier at extreme cold temps.
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grsthegreat
Peddler;n59644 wrote:
All the units for the last several years have had synthetic from the factory.


I just asked my factory rep last month, and he told me that they are not using synthetic from factory. He said that they still use dyno oil with uv dye (leak tester).
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Ron Goldstein Rongold
So, after all this discussion, …….. Can I put the heater sleeve on the oil filter and run it for the initial 25 hours with the original factory fill of dino oil ???
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78buckshot
If in the winter the engine has trouble starting with the factory oil then you have bigger fish to fry. We(the co. I work for) don't have many gensets with cold weather kits, cranking/starting is not a common problem. Oh, if your going to fry the fish I wouldn't use synthetic or dino-bad aftertaste.
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Peddler
grsthegreat;n59646 wrote:


I just asked my factory rep last month, and he told me that they are not using synthetic from factory. He said that they still use dyno oil with uv dye (leak tester).


What factory rep did you ask? Someone in Tech support?
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grsthegreat
My sales rep told me this. He then transfered me to tech support and they told me that its not synthetic oil in this model. The tech support told me that i can either just leave in original oil with winter kit, or change it to full synthetic 5w30 immediately. This wont affect warranty. He said most installers simply swap out to synthetic at 25 hour oil change and leave original oil in when installing kit. It all depends on location. In extremely, extremely cold climates, he suggested swapping oil right away.
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