in2hockey
I installed this unit at my Bosses home over the Summer and have talked about it in other threads.
We've only experienced a few short outages with it but it has run flawlessly during said outages!

My questions are....

1. Is this model WiFi capable?
Model # RG04524ANAX
Serial # 000000003004333374

2. If yes then does the app work offsite or do you need to be connected to the local network to get the notifications?
I ask this because it would be nice for me to know what's going on with the generator either from my home or the office.
They travel a lot and have house sitters but it would give me piece of mind knowing the status of the unit at any given time.

3. Also is there an monthly/annual fee required for the app?

Any input/thoughts/opinions would be appreciated, thanks!
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grsthegreat
those units do not have wifi compatible controllers. only the evolution2 air cooled do at this time.  The wifi units ONLY work on local networks. If you have cellular reception at the site, there is a Mobile Link Cellular 4G option available. i believe you will also need the liquid cooled extension cable but im not certain with the new configurations. These units (the new  4G series only) operate on cellular signal and do not need network access. there is a yearly fee.

as of this time, Generac does not offer a wifi aftermarket kit on any non wifi evolution controller.

if you have a local network with strong signal at the generator, Genmon (GetHub) units will hook into the evolution controller and you can get info over the network. there are no user fees for this service. I have a genmon on my air cooled unit and its a great device. i get an text within 5 seconds of any change in generator condition.
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in2hockey
Thanks for the info! I have a UniFi AP just on the other side of the wall from where the generator is located, so the signal is strong. I'll do some research on Genmon (GetHub), awesome.
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grsthegreat
i purchased the entire unit on ebay with remote antenna. cost like $300.00.  Easy install. no monthly fees.

https://www.zillerstore.com/post/genmon-10070974?pid=1308486909&highlight=genmon
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BillM
I ran Ethernet to my generator, put UniFi camera's out there and it's all PoE.  Also ran Ademco/Honeywell contact wires so I know when the lid is opened.  Does anyone know if the Genmon solution can be hardwired?  I have plenty of WiFi coverage as well but I like to hardwire when it's readily available.
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in2hockey
I found it on ebay and contacted the seller to verify that it would work with our unit, which it will. 
Here's the link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/264531825558?ul_noapp=true
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10kray
Hello in2hockey, we have an ecogen and it has the internet capability also. We hooked up to HughesNet to get WiFi as we are very remote, no cell service, nothing. We have WiFi and then we needed to call Hughes back in to get a certain level of modem that will give us remote access. We can get in while at the cabin over the intra net but you must be there for that capability. We needed a Static IP in order to access it remotely which this new modem is supposed to give us, We have not yet been able to get that yet as we are having another issue with our generator back up right now nd we are waiting for a part to repair it and then we can bring the whole system back up on board. The thing is this, you need a STATIC IP in order to access the system from remote location. I'd appreciate any knowledge you can get on this subject as well, I'll keep you informed too ! Thanks, 10Kray
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grsthegreat
you dont need static IP for the GenPi unit. it transmits to the wifi signal at the house. it doesnt use cellular at all. Mine is working just fine without static ip. That being said, you can access this program remotely but you do have to do alot of monkeying around and leave a computer ON 24/7 at the generator location to do it. Personally, there are no functions that i need to access when im away. Im more than happy to  get email and text messages about gen condition when away. The only things i can think you would ever need to have remote access to would be to change the exercise time. Who needs that. NO SYSTEM lets you shut down a generator while its running during an actual power outage. I CAN remotely start mine and transfer power AS LONG AS HOUSE POWER IS ACTUALLY ON. I do this a few times a year to exercise gen under load. dont need to do that remotely wither.
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10kray
OK, thanks. I was just looking at the product and see it is for Type H panels only as of yet. We have a Type G I believe. We would need Static IP  because we do not have WiFi other than what is being supplied by the Sat Conn. Am I thinking correctly on this grsthegreat ? Thank you.
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grsthegreat
ya..thats a whole different thing. these rely on wifi. I was told that inorder for me to have a live access to mine remotely, i would have to install an app on phone or tablet and leave my computer on at home 24/7. i dont wish to do that. Supposedly Generac is going to sell a wifi aftermarket unit that will work on older generators that do not have the wifi controller. Time will tell.
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10kray
Hopefully sooner than later. Thanks for your input.
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Cobranut

grsthegreat wrote:
NO SYSTEM lets you shut down a generator while its running during an actual power outage. I CAN remotely start mine and transfer power AS LONG AS HOUSE POWER IS ACTUALLY ON. I do this a few times a year to exercise gen under load. dont need to do that remotely wither.


Actually, that's not entirely true.

I designed my installation to allow us to flip a switch in the house to disable mode, which removes the load, runs a cooldown cycle and shuts the genset down during an outage.
If the utility power comes back on while the genset is in disable mode, the system transfers back to utility automatically.
If utility is still out, flipping the switch back to automatic mode starts the genset, runs a warmup and connects the load.
It all happens very seamlessly, and my wife can operate the system whether I'm at home or not. 😎

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grsthegreat
That’s cool...but I’m too lazy to design anything myself. I wanted it out of the box. What did you do to control yours. You could probably market that
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Cobranut
grsthegreat:  Here are the threads outlining my install.
Unfortunately the pics were lost in the site transition.

https://www.zillerstore.com/post/400-amp-service-disconnect-9948573?&trail=25

https://www.zillerstore.com/post/questions-about-manual-operation-9947428?&trail=25
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JayH
10kray wrote:
The thing is this, you need a STATIC IP in order to access the system from remote location. I'd appreciate any knowledge you can get on this subject as well, I'll keep you informed too ! Thanks, 10Kray


There are dynamic DNS services that can work around the need for a static IP. The remote system sends a special packet to the dynamic DNS server provider periodically. This updates a hostname that points to the dynamic IP. Querying the hostname will direct you to the current dynamic IP address. https://dyn.com/dns/ is one, there are several.
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in2hockey
I'm going to give it a shot and purchase the unit because yesterday I was on site (working on other things) and decided to take a look at the genny for sh*ts & giggles and it happened to be in an error state. It was throwing an error code 2800 (which after a quick google was an easy fix, why it happened I'm not sure). My point is, that had I not looked I wouldn't have known until the next outage that it wasn't running.... This is at my bosses place and the last thing that I'd want to be doing during an outage is trying to trek over there for a 2 second fix. I'll post how my install goes and what I needed to do to remote in so hopefully it will help someone else....
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grsthegreat
thats weird. for a liquid cooled unit that shows an E stop being pushed.
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in2hockey
grsthegreat wrote:
thats weird. for a liquid cooled unit that shows an E stop being pushed.


I thought it was weird too so I pulled the front cover off and checked that both switches were operating properly then reconnected them, pressed the off button then the auto and was good to go again. The only thing that I can think is that I didn't get the plug harness all the way in for the switch that is located on the cover and it just vibrated loose...
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in2hockey
I installed the GenPi yesterday that I purchased on eBay, it went really smooth! It has an easy setup feature which would make things much easier for those who are not this type of technically savvy. 
My next step is setting it up for remote access through a VPN so that I can monitor it in real time, even though the device will send text and/or email notifications of any status changes to the generator.
The AP is about 30 ft away and one thing of note is that it really doesn't like SSID's that have spaces in them. So I just created another wireless network and simply called it "Generac". 

GenMod1.jpg  GenMod2.jpg 
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grsthegreat
mine texts me within a few seconds of any change of state. the emails can be delayed sue to the way my phone randomly checks emails to save battery power. I have verizon phone, so i simply set up an email notification on the genpi system under notification recipients. Also, i have a ups installed on my wifi in the house so the signal can come thru if the power fails. this also prevents the system from having to take a few minutes to reboot.

  xxxxxxxxxx@vtext.com


with the x's being your phone number. Not sure how other cellular carriers do it


i get an instant text message that way.


We had a 4.5 hour power outage last week and the system worked flawlessly. was able to monitor my generator during a real power outage during a 20F snow storm. Everything worked as expected. even the hot tub heater cycled properly. I am very pleased with the system. I also LOVE the fact that there are no monthly fees. If i ever plan on doing some travel, i will have to link this thru a computer so i can view it wherever i am. But for now ill leave it as it is.
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in2hockey
The UPS is a good idea for the modem/router/AP's. I have several UPS setups there for the security cameras, NAS and their iMac but it makes sense to have one for the modem/router/AP's. I have 5 AP's deployed that are all home runned to a POE switch at the modem so it would be really easy to have a small UPS to keep the modem and POE switch going until the genny kicked in. Did you setup a VPN for remote access to the GenPi GUI? I'm trying to find an easy but secure solution since this isn't my generator, it's my bosses. Real time would be nice especially for keeping tabs on run times for service intervals. 
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grsthegreat
I don’t have it set up for remote access per say. I get remote texts, but I cannot control generator if I’m away from my wifi. You can link it into a computer for a remote VPN, and I may at some time in the future. But I’m hardly ever traveling anymore.
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in2hockey
So what I ended up doing is deploying a separate PC on site, I know some might think that this is overkill or unnecessary but for me it's a huge time saver. I have multiple devices that I monitor at this location so now I can easily remote into the dedicated Windows 10 PC and look at the Genmon software in real-time, update the FreeNas box and access the UniFi controller software. So you see for anyone else that is responsible for more then one device this might be the hot ticket. I'm using RDP to access the PC and changed the default port to a unique number and only allow access through the firewall from my IP, so it's very secure. I opted for a Dell Micro, they're tiny but powerful, I have about 7 of these currently deployed in our office and they work fantastic. I purchased this unit used on eBay for about $150.00  
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in2hockey
The latest addition to the Genmon device is the "Tank Utility", which is a propane tank (propane level) monitoring system. It has it's own app for both Android and Apple devices but what I mostly liked about it is that it integrates with the Genmon software. So on top of all the other monitoring capabilities we now have remote monitoring of the propane usage/level. The only downside thus far is it seems that the devices (which needs to be mounted by the tank) connection strength is fairly week so if your tank is too far from your WiFi it probably wont work. This one barely does but my plan was adding another AP on that end of the property anyway, just means that I need to do it sooner. 
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