Dan N.
I seem to have a start compositor also. Is there anything different I need to do to install the soft start with this set up? 
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78buckshot
I can't tell for sure but it looks like you have a two stage condensing unit. The metal capacitor is a run cap., the black plastic one is a start capacitor and is controlled by the start relay on the left side of the cap. The sure-start comes with wiring instructions but you better double check with them on the use for multi- stage compressors. I think in your case it will be OK due to the stages are a partly loaded or a fully loaded compressor, the speed of the motor does not change.
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Dan N.
It’s all single stage I think it’s a tempstar 2.5 ton.

https://resource.gemaire.com/is/content/Watscocom/Gemaire/icp_n4h4_ss.pdf?fmt=pdf
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78buckshot
OK, the product literature gave me more info, it is a heat pump condensing unit and from the picture of the control wiring it appears to be wired for heat pump use. I originally thought it was control wiring for multi-stage, you should be able to follow the wiring instructions that are packed with the Sure-Start and be good to go.
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Dan N.

Ok cool. I read an looked over the instructions via hyper’s website and it says to remove the start compositor, relay and start thermistor if they are they are there and then install the soft start. I just wanted to make sure the start compositor was not a mandatory item to make the unit work. 

  http://www.hypereng.com/literature/IG5601EH.pdf

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Cobranut
I think you mean capacitor. 
Not quite sure what a compositor would do. Lol
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Dan N.
Hahahha yea your correct. Are there any specifics things I must do to remove the capacitor? Or just take it off.
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78buckshot
The Sure-Start replaces the factory start cap and relay. When removing the original capacitor just place your tongue across both terminals to bleed the excess energy like you would test a transistor radio 9 volt battery, then after your significant other picks you up off the ground you can continue to remove the wiring and associated hardware. Just kidding about the tongue thing, be careful but no special sequence.
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Cobranut
78buckshot wrote:
The Sure-Start replaces the factory start cap and relay. When removing the original capacitor just place your tongue across both terminals to bleed the excess energy like you would test a transistor radio 9 volt battery, then after your significant other picks you up off the ground you can continue to remove the wiring and associated hardware. Just kidding about the tongue thing, be careful but no special sequence.


If anyone actually takes Buckshot's advice, PLEASE have someone take a video... LOL
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Dan N.
Hahahah😂😂
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murphy
The "specific" thing you must do is disconnect the power feed to the unit before doing anything else.
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78buckshot
Thanks murphy, I'm was too focused on the remove/install.
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Dan N.
Yea I’ll pull the disconnect to kill the power, use insulated screwdriver and touch the start capacitor terminals to kill saved charge, same for common to Herm and common to fan,  remove the Start capacitor and relay, then follow the install instructions for the Soft start. 👍
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Dan N.

So I went from 68 To 19! The generator does not miss a beat now. My 5,000 watt hot water tank hits the generator harder than the 2.5 ton heat pump does now. Wow, just wow!!

I appreciate the help also, thanks so much!

 

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Geoff Z
Thank you for posting your results. That is what we typically see when SSSS is used. In the right scenario it can allow a smaller generator to be used than otherwise would be needed. 
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JayH
Cobranut wrote:
I think you mean capacitor. 
Not quite sure what a compositor would do. Lol


It's a part of the turboencabulator.
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78buckshot
 I have two piles of compost, one is the fresh horse manure and hay from the winter, the other is 2 - 3 years old that we use for gardens and filling in low spots around the yard, the horses are the compositors/depositors. Is that what you mean?
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grsthegreat
78...same here. I have 3 of the hay burners and quite a pile of manure to spread every year. ALL3 copy.jpg 
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78buckshot
We only have two, quarter horses, so the amount of poop is probably close to your three miniatures. The wife keeps the pastures clean so they have decent grazing. She has picked up enough to know that there will be 24 piles per day. With the mild winter we had this year we didn't burn as much hay as in past years and they are free to come and go from the run in out to the pastures. We're in southeast Michigan so they are getting almost what they need now from pasture.
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Cobranut
grsthegreat wrote:
78...same here. I have 3 of the hay burners and quite a pile of manure to spread every year. ALL3 copy.jpg 


Get some hippos and they'll save you the trouble of spreading it yourself. LOL
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78buckshot
I think I'll pass on the hippo, the wife keeps getting more animals and I'm so busy with taking care of HER hobbies that I don't have time for mine. I can't wait to get back to work at my day job so I can recuperate. I did get the engine pulled out of my diesel pick-up and the new long block is due in tomorrow. Got the chicken coop wired, pastures sprayed, horses hoofs are trimmed. I'd like to pull a couple of wheels off my '57 truck and get them sandblasted but that seems like too much of a want and not a need at this time.
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