rico567
Just got an e-mail from Ziller that our generator shipped from the factory today. Should get the call from the carrier within a day or so, and I can alert the installer and our LP supplier that things are moving.
For installation, we decided to go with the electrical contractor who's done all our work over the years. We've always had an extremely high opinion of their work, and it turns out they install Generacs on a regular basis, although they do more Cummins-Onan.
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Canada_Guy
rico567;11064 wrote:
although they do more Cummins-Onan.


I wouldn't hold that against them though. :)
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bucdup
Anyone know what engine is used in the Cummins-Onan 20kW??
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mastr
Which 20kw?

Kubota V2403-M on the "commercial diesel" model.

The DSKBA is a Kubota V2203.

The Onan RS 20000 uses "an industrial 4 cylinder, liquid cooled Ford engine".

The GSBB "RS air cooled series" claims
"[COLOR="Blue"]Model: 993 cc, air-cooled v-twin OHV
Compression ratio: 8.3:1
Displacement: 60.6 cu in (993 cc)
Oil sump capacity: 2.43 qt (2.3 L) with filter
Operating speed: 3600 rpm[/COLOR](suspiciously familiar to anyone? D.W.Onan is probably spinning in his grave, albeit at a more conservative 1800RPM.)

The GGMA has a 3.0 liter GM engine.

All of the above are 20kw.
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bucdup
mastr;11082 wrote:
D.W.Onan is probably spinning in his grave, albeit at a more conservative 1800RPM.)


I meant the 20kW Air Cooled model.

This quote, BTW is the best comment I have seen some time on any forum. That is hilarious...
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mastr
I haven't seen a 20kw air cooled, I rarely deal wth 3600 rpm sets. If I had to guess, I would say it might be a Briggs-Vanguard.
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ohmslaw
Definitely Briggs
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rico567
RE: the OP, carrier (Holland) called yesterday afternoon, generator is to be delivered Monday afternoon. I alerted the installer that we should be good to proceed next week.
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genme
rico567;11106 wrote:
RE: the OP, carrier (Holland) called yesterday afternoon, generator is to be delivered Monday afternoon.
Make sure you follow receiving guidelines as established by the company you purchased the generator from. That is, checking for order completeness, shipping damage, etc., and following the proper procedure.
Model 5875, Nexus controller, 999cc Engine, 20kW LP, 2011
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rico567
genme;11109 wrote:
Make sure you follow receiving guidelines as established by the company you purchased the generator from. That is, checking for order completeness, shipping damage, etc., and following the proper procedure.


Yes, I got the generator from Ziller, and they were quite complete in their instructions concerning checking the order and shipping damage, etc. My biggest concern has been with the carrier not being willing to come up our driveway to deliver (I have had this problem on several occasions with truck freight), but we discussed it and they don't seem to think there'll be any problem.
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genme
We requested a "straight truck" from the terminal due to the narrow winding roads to get to our house. Fortunately they had one.
Model 5875, Nexus controller, 999cc Engine, 20kW LP, 2011
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Skip Douglas SkipD
genme;11113 wrote:
We requested a "straight truck" from the terminal due to the narrow winding roads to get to our house. Fortunately they had one.
You'll want four strong guys and two 3/4" steel pipes to move the generator from the truck to the pad. There are other ways, but it still takes a bit of wrestling, even when using a wheeled carrier.
Skip Douglas
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rico567
Thanks for the heads-up, Skip. My contractor informs me that they have a wheeled cart of some kind that they customarily use when installing these. I need to assume that they will also have the manpower here to move the generator to the pad from the cart. Given the situation of our pad, this should not be a major operation.
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Skip Douglas SkipD
rico567;11120 wrote:
Thanks for the heads-up, Skip. My contractor informs me that they have a wheeled cart of some kind that they customarily use when installing these. I need to assume that they will also have the manpower here to move the generator to the pad from the cart. Given the situation of our pad, this should not be a major operation.
One way I saved a lot of money on my installation is by being the fourth person for moving the generator from the truck to my pad. I also did a lot of the electrical installation myself and replaced one electrician of the two that the contractor normally uses. I did all of this by arranging to have a time-and-material installation instead of a firm turn-key quotation where they did all of the work. In the end, I saved about $2700 by doing a lot of the work myself.
Skip Douglas
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genme
When our generator arrived via a straight truck with powered lift-gate (I forgot to mention the lift-gate previously) we simply used the driver's pallet jack to wheel the generator into the garage.

I made sure that the person doing our propane hookup brought a pallet jack (to wheel the generator out of the garage), and a "boom" truck that they typically use to lift/transport propane tanks. With two pipes and some nylon straps attached to the boom, he easily placed the generator on our pad. No manual lifting required. Of course, with natural gas hookups, a boom truck may not be available.
Model 5875, Nexus controller, 999cc Engine, 20kW LP, 2011
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rico567
Skip, I am on a time & materials basis with my contractor. These people installed a lot of outdoor supply stuff for us, including rewiring our submersible pump when it and all the supply wiring was fried by lightning, burying the incoming line, placing outdoor cutoffs, putting in a 200A service, and running an underground service to the garage when we built it 4 years ago. We've always been delighted with their work and the final bill, so I don't expect this time to be any different.

Genme, our installation contractor has a cart they use to move the generator to the pad. Since we have LP, I'm familiar with the trailers used to transport tanks, but that probably wouldn't work in our situation.
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rico567
Generator was delivered today, Holland apparently did a flawless job, as the container was 100% upon inspection. Impressive packaging with a wooden "crate frame" inside the heavy corrugated, and that on a pallet. Now I have to wait for a place on my installer's schedule.....
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rico567
Installation is scheduled for Friday morning 10/7.
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rico567
Installation went off as scheduled this morning, took about 4.5 hours. I'm very pleased with the workmanship displayed. They did everything I wanted, and added a few things I certainly wouldn't have thought of. I couldn't get on my gas supplier's work schedule until next Tuesday, so that's when the LP gets hooked up and we light this candle.
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HKFever
rico567;11230 wrote:
Installation went off as scheduled this morning, took about 4.5 hours. I'm very pleased with the workmanship displayed. They did everything I wanted, and added a few things I certainly wouldn't have thought of. I couldn't get on my gas supplier's work schedule until next Tuesday, so that's when the LP gets hooked up and we light this candle.


Looking good!
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