Kaos
I have a 22k Generac 70432. Everything is hooked up except the wires from ATS to Generator.
I see Ziller has the Generac install wire bundle. It consist of 3awg wire for the main power. The installation manual doesn't say what size, gives a range from 2/0-8awg. Just curious if anyone has used the already made Generac cable.
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Geoff Z
The 17/22 wire is exactly what you need. The 22kw has a 100amp main breaker protecting the wire at its proper ampacity. It is great cable to work with and a labor savings. We use it on every generator we install. 
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Kaos
Thanks, placed my order today.
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Mpccpwm
Installation question on the Generac  12-16 kw cable.  Can it be run in conduit.  The cut sheet says " for use in cable trays, aerial or direct burial.  It does not say anything about conduit.  I know my electrical inspector.....he will need to see something in wiriting.  
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grsthegreat
There authorized for use in cable trays or raceays. Conduit is a raceway.
A raceway (sometimes referred to as a raceway system) is an enclosed conduit that forms a physical pathway for electrical wiring. Raceways protect wires and cables from heat, humidity, corrosion, water intrusion and general physical threats. ... In some systems, plastic conduit is sufficient.
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BillM
Mpccpwm wrote:
Installation question on the Generac  12-16 kw cable.  Can it be run in conduit.  The cut sheet says " for use in cable trays, aerial or direct burial.  It does not say anything about conduit.  I know my electrical inspector.....he will need to see something in wiriting.  


Make sure your inspector gives you in writing any code violation he mentions to you (The actual NEC/NFPA or state code article that he claims you have wrong).  You might be surprised that they actually make mistakes sometimes.
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GMc
Mpccpwm wrote:
Installation question on the Generac  12-16 kw cable.  Can it be run in conduit.  The cut sheet says " for use in cable trays, aerial or direct burial.  It does not say anything about conduit.  I know my electrical inspector.....he will need to see something in wiriting.  


Take a look at Article 336.10 (NEC 2014 Edition)  Not sure if it reads the same in 2017 but will check when I get back home.

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Sorry, can't find my 2017 edition..  Here is a link you can look at though;

https://www.ecmag.com/section/codes-standards/2017-nec-conductors-switches-receptacles-significant-changes-2017-nec-part
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Geoff Z
Answer is yes

2017 NEC 336.10(3) In raceways
(raceways = conduit)
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Goofy4TheWorld
Wasn't it the case that earlier editions of the NEC had wording somewhere that in-effect prohibited the Generac pre-made cable from being in conduit, but that the wording was changed in more recent versions???  Perhaps it changed in 2017?
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grsthegreat
I had never had any issues from inspectors when running trey cable in conduit. The only issues i had was running them inside framing or under a house. That has changed last year and they now allow it run thru framing and under a house. Even though its direct buried rated, i place it in conduit for added protection underground and no inspector has ever had an issue with it. Mine you i only use the copper version of the wire. I hear that there is an aluminum version but i havnt read the specs on that.
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GMc
Wasn't it the case that earlier editions of the NEC had wording somewhere that in-effect prohibited the Generac pre-made cable from being in conduit, but that the wording was changed in more recent versions???  Perhaps it changed in 2017?


I went back to 2005 and "In Raceways" was still listed under Uses Permitted.  
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Greg-
GMc wrote:


Take a look at Article 336.10 (NEC 2014 Edition)  Not sure if it reads the same in 2017 but will check when I get back home.

Edit:
Sorry, can't find my 2017 edition..  Here is a link you can look at though;

https://www.ecmag.com/section/codes-standards/2017-nec-conductors-switches-receptacles-significant-changes-2017-nec-part
Well if you already have the Generac cable you can always remove the outer jacket and pull the group of individual wires through the conduit. I guess it depends on how much you would of the outer jacket you would have to remove. It could be a pain.
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grsthegreat
Again, you dont need to do anything. Its approved for use within raceways (ie conduit). if you are worried, contact your inspector prior to doing any work to make sure there isnt any issues in your jurisdiction
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Brian Baughman
Any cable can legally be installed in a raceway, including Types MC, AC, SE, UF, MN, TC, and every other listed cable in the NEC.  The proof is hiding in black and white text in Note (9) to the Tables in Chapter 9 in the NEC.  
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Goofy4TheWorld
After I have stirred up a hornets nest, I think grsthegreat's comment hit what I was thinking of. It wasn't that you COULDN'T run it in conduit, it's that conduit was REQUIRED in certain circumstances. And as grsthegreat posted, maybe it was where people were running it in crawlspace and basement areas and were not being allowed to do that.

Whatever it was, I specifically remember a thread talking about how someone had an inspector agree to let it pass at his house since the state was a few months from switching to the new code. Might have been one of the Carolinas? I'm getting old and fuzzy on the memory!
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