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bronco
adjustment is the same for all mechanical govs.
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mike67
Anymore advice would be appreciated.
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20kW
[B]Briggs Engine..[/B]
Did you see if there is a youtube out there that covers the fix....amazing what can be found on line..
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mike67
Hey guys,I finally figured it out.The swivel adjust that the adjusting rod connects to that I didn't touch needed to be turned all the way counter clockwise when adjusting the governor lever and governor rod all the way clockwise.After tightening the governor lever then I turned the the adjusting rod to put the swivel back to its original position and then it worked just fine.Thanks for everyones input!!!
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20kW
20kW;26355 wrote:
Maybe someone else did (in the history of that engine), as a shortcut to solve another problem?

From going half blind reading that posted page of directions..[B]Adjusting that rod/nut seems to be part of the required/ordered sequence of steps...[/B]just saying!


hmmmm..... Seems I read that somewhere?;)
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jdmst71
Mike,
Out of curiosity how hard was it to get to the head through the shroud? I have a similar aged generator and need to replace a head gasket also (But I have been busy/lazy and so it remains on my to do list). My governor setup would also need to be removed like yours. After that it seems like a tight fit getting the shroud off to expose the head.

Thanks, John
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Ed Schneegas
I got a 8000kw general generator. I was told it I’d not getting enough air. The air filter is new had it running with out the air cleaner. Only way I can make it ru is turn the gas valve to about 1/4 way on then it runs great. Was going check the adjustment on the valves. Any one know what it should be and has any ideal what may be wrong with it? It is a v twin Briggs on it model 04109-0 Ser 3161542
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murphy
I would guess that you have an 8 kW generator and not an 8000 kW generator.  We need more information.  Is it running on LP or NG?  Is the generator configured for the proper fuel.  Your description sounds like a generator that is configured for NG is being run on LP.
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Ed Schneegas
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Ed Schneegas
Have it on LP. Been running the last two years and now this. 
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Ed Schneegas
Running off LP gas. Had a guy here he said as that it will run if you turn the gas valve to 1/4 it rounds great but wide olen it will not. It is getting 11.5 psi. They say it should be from
11 to 14 psi. It been working great the last two years. The guy said it needs more air took off air cleaner still do it and the air cleaner is like new. He said valve adjustment but when it runs it sound great. So I don’t think it is valve adjustment but if I know what they are set at I’ll adjust it. It is eave time do. 
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Ed Schneegas
Running off LP gas. Had a guy here he said as that it will run if you turn the gas valve to 1/4 it rounds great but wide olen it will not. It is getting 11.5 psi. They say it should be from
11 to 14 psi. It been working great the last two years. The guy said it needs more air took off air cleaner still do it and the air cleaner is like new. He said valve adjustment but when it runs it sound great. So I don’t think it is valve adjustment but if I know what they are set at I’ll adjust it. It is eave time do. 
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Ed Schneegas
thanks for every thing. Hope I can find some thing out some where. 
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78buckshot
Ed, you should check the valve lash at some point but I don't think that is the culprit. Valve lash spec is .002" - .004" with a cold engine. I suspect a fuel pressure problem. You need an accurate way to check incoming gas pressure with engine off and also with the engine running. The correct inlet pressure will be 11 - 14 inches of water column, that is roughly a half pound per square inch. The next thing I would suspect is the throttle body, it should have twin throttle plates - one for each cylinder, check to make sure the throttle plates(butterflies) are intact.
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Ed Schneegas
I got 11.5 as it running. But will not stay going unless you have the gas valve only 1/4 way open then it will keep going. It sounds very good that way. I put on a new regulator. Still going it. A guy told me it is not getting enough air. To check my air filter. It is a new one on. I even try to run it with out the air filter. He also said that the valves could do it if the adjustment is off. So want to try that. It only has 198 hours on it. It been running great for over two years in LP. Have not change any thing on that part. Thinks for the info on the clearance on the valve. Will check that out tomorrow or Sunday. I work on small engines it don’t sound like a valve but it can’t hurt to Check them. It is easy enough to do. Only thing it get to me it is LP and I’m use to gas motors. It’s about the same but with LP I was told that the valves has to be just right. So I’ll get a feeling gage and check it. Thanks very much. Try to look it up but couldn’t find what it is the clearance was. The 004 is ex and the
Int is 002. Because the ex has to be just a letter more because it is ex the carbon.
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Ed Schneegas
29 minutes ago
Ed, you should check the valve lash at some point but I don't think that is the culprit. Valve lash spec is .002" - .004" with a cold engine. I suspect a fuel pressure problem. You need an accurate way to check incoming gas pressure with engine off and also with the engine running. The correct inlet pressure will be 11 - 14 inches of water column, that is roughly a half pound per square inch. The next thing I would suspect is the throttle body, it should have twin throttle plates - one for each cylinder, check to make sure the throttle plates(butterflies) are intact.
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78buckshot
If the symptoms are "not enough air" then it's the same as too much fuel. Ask yourself 'how could the intake air path have changed enough to cause this?' Well, it probably did not, but the fuel supply system has enough variables to be suspect. If fuel and air check out fine then you need to move on to ignition. Ignition coils are one of the weak spots on these engines, if you have to lean the fuel mixture to make it run correctly the spark is probably not up to par.
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Ed Schneegas
Ok. Some thing else to check I got a coil tester here. I work on small gas motors. I’ll do the valves then check the coil then check out the flow where the air go through the butterflies. It sounds good. You got me on the right track. Thank you so much. You are a lot of help to me. LP gas through me off. They run kettle different. 
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Ed Schneegas
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Ed Schneegas
The two plugs been in for two years. Check valve clearance check spark on both side coils are good. Check air cleaner like new try it with out air cleaner still will not stay going unless the gas is on only 1/4 on. It is getting 11.5 psi. 
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murphy
It is supposed to be 11.5 water column, not 11.5 psi.
11.5 water column is 0.4150487 psi.
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