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nrp3
What you have is a pre Nexus unit. While you may have T-1 in the transfer switch, you won't have it out in the unit. At least not on a terminal block. It would be there on a newer generation. You could have a couple of different scenarios, T1 was run out to the generator and a connects to a black battery charger somewhere near the battery or its in the transfer switch and its DC output is connected to 194 and 0 as others mentioned. Picture of inside of transfer switch would help.
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BrentB
nrp3;36896 wrote:
What you have is a pre Nexus unit. While you may have T-1 in the transfer switch, you won't have it out in the unit. At least not on a terminal block. It would be there on a newer generation. You could have a couple of different scenarios, T1 was run out to the generator and a connects to a black battery charger somewhere near the battery or its in the transfer switch and its DC output is connected to 194 and 0 as others mentioned. Picture of inside of transfer switch would help.


Charger for that unit was part #0G8023 In the past if you bought that generator without the transfer switch the charger was included in the bag with the owners manuals.
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nrp3
How was that handled, if you bought a transfer switch separately, you used the charger in the bag, or was one also included? Before my time.
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MacL
MGREEN4034;36886 wrote:
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i attached a photo i do not see t1 anywhere in generator
i can run 14g wire from ats but where does it connect on generator?

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this is a picture of my control panel


Okay you have the gray box controller, and will need an external battery charger p/n 0G8023. Please attempt to acquire this and don't get a battery tender from wal-mart.

The charger can be mounted in the transfer switch if running a t1 wire is too much trouble.

You'd take the black primary wires, split them apart, putting one on t1 and one on neutral (or t2, it can have a 240 or 120 primary, either one), and should be fused. I'd hook it up to 120 rather than 240, however it does not matter.

You put the red secondary on 15B (along with the wire already there) in the xfer switch and the black secondary on 0 (but that 0 wire needs to go out to the generator).

[B]Putting the charger in the switch will probably be your best solution.[/B] So no wires will need to be run. You'll just need a fuse block, that holds a single 5 amp cartridge fuse like the other two fuses, and screw it to the back plate of the switch.



If you can get an always hot wire from T1 out to the generator, then you can put the charger in the generator. Hook the hot wire to one primary wire with a wire nut or butt splice and put the other primary wire on the neutral lug.

Put the red secondary on 15B, and the black on 0, on the terminal block in your pic. Oh, and it does look like you have wire 0 going to the switch.



Take off your negative battery cable and with the switch in auto, read from B+ to chassis, you should get 13.53vdc. It may have to be all connected up and on for a few minutes before you see an output.
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techntrek
MacL;36903 wrote:
Please attempt to acquire this and don't get a battery tender from wal-mart.


Many people here have successfully used battery tenders. As long as it provides over 3 amps (I think that was the group consensus in a discussion about 2 months ago) it will provide enough amperage to run the control board and keep the battery topped off during an outage.

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The charger can be mounted in the transfer switch if running a t1 wire is too much trouble.


Any after-market charger/tender will expect to be hooked up directly to the battery, and not over an extra 10 feet (or more) of small-diameter wire. It will never charge the battery correctly.
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Skip Douglas SkipD
techntrek;36909 wrote:
Many people here have successfully used battery tenders. As long as it provides over 3 amps (I think that was the group consensus in a discussion about 2 months ago) it will provide enough amperage to run the control board and keep the battery topped off during an outage.
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Any after-market charger/tender will expect to be hooked up directly to the battery, and not over an extra 10 feet (or more) of small-diameter wire. It will never charge the battery correctly.
I agree with both of these comments.

Costco has recently been carrying a perfect solution for an after-market battery charger (for use in pre-Nexus Generac generators, that is). It is a 3-amp Battery Tender charger/maintainer. While these are made by the same company (Deltran) that makes other "Battery Tender" products, this 3-amp charger/maintainer is distributed through Costco only. The Costco price, by the way, is $39.99 and recently was on sale for $29.99.

I've looked at the [URL="http://www.batterytender.com/"][COLOR=Blue][U]Deltran / Battery Tender web site[/U][/COLOR][/URL] recently and do not see 3-amp units there.
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MGREEN4034
Thank you all. I just returned from a minor trip to the hospital and i will have all of next week off to tackle issue. Again thanks to all for their support
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singlecoil
SkipD;36910 wrote:
I agree with both of these comments.

Costco has recently been carrying a perfect solution for an after-market battery charger (for use in pre-Nexus Generac generators, that is). It is a 3-amp Battery Tender charger/maintainer. While these are made by the same company (Deltran) that makes other "Battery Tender" products, this 3-amp charger/maintainer is distributed through Costco only. The Costco price, by the way, is $39.99 and recently was on sale for $29.99.

I've looked at the [URL="http://www.batterytender.com/"][COLOR=Blue][U]Deltran / Battery Tender web site[/U][/COLOR][/URL] recently and do not see 3-amp units there.

SkipD,
Would you suggest attaching an after market charger/maintainer directly to the battery or to the two posts in the generator where the original charger was connected?
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Skip Douglas SkipD
singlecoil;36945 wrote:
SkipD,
Would you suggest attaching an after market charger/maintainer directly to the battery or to the two posts in the generator where the original charger was connected?
I connect mine directly to the battery, though there is a set of 30-ampere quick connectors [URL="http://www.powerwerx.com/anderson-powerpoles/powerpole-sets/30-amp-permanently-bonded-red-black-anderson-powerpole-sets.html?id=39722&utm_source=googleShopping&utm_medium=googleShopping&utm_campaign=googleShopping&gclid=CODzqZa77ckCFYU-aQod80MM9Q"]([COLOR=Blue][U]an Anderson PowerPole connector pair[/U][/COLOR])[/URL] which I installed that allows me to separate the connection quickly for pulling the battery out for maintenance.
Skip Douglas
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MGREEN4034
It has been two weeks since i installed the deltran battery tender and the wiring kit from ziller. I ran separate direct burial 12/4 wires from circuit breaker in ats. It is working great. I would like to thank all who helped me with this issue. I hope all have a great new year.
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MacL
MGREEN4034;37268 wrote:
It has been two weeks since i installed the deltran battery tender and the wiring kit from ziller. I ran separate direct burial 12/4 wires from circuit breaker in ats. It is working great. I would like to thank all who helped me with this issue. I hope all have a great new year.


That's great, glad you got that taken care of. :)
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78buckshot
Your very welcome, it works so well when many minds are put to the same task, and it's nice to be able to use our God given talent to assist others.
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