zen
Hi guys, I had a call today from a customer worrying that kids in her neighborhood
could flick off that auxiliary shutdown switch. Is generac has some sort of cover to make it less 
accessible? Ty and play safe.
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Cobranut
That's precisely why I do not have this switch on my unit. 
I know what I and my friends would have done when we were 8 years old, if this switch had been there back then.  LOL
Unfortunately, if your inspector insists it be there, covering it up is probably not going to fly with them.
Maybe some sort of breakable cover, that a firefighter could break open, would be acceptable to them, but I don't see why a kid couldn't break it just as easily.
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Goofy4TheWorld
Tennessee hasn't adopted this ridiculous rule (or at least it hadn't done it last year) but if I would have been required to install one of these switches I would have solved this "problem" post-inspection using one of these...
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Geoff Z
Generac makes nothing that I am aware of for a cover. All today's models are coming with the shutdown switches. I believe 9kw and 11kw have the exterior switch only. The larger units have the exterior switch and interior right side fire wall switch. They also sell a kit to add the switches if required by the inspector.
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UPS
zen wrote:
Hi guys, I had a call today from a customer worrying that kids in her neighborhood could flick off that auxiliary shutdown switch. Is generac has some sort of cover to make it less 
accessible? Ty and play safe.

Cobranut wrote:
That's precisely why I do not have this switch on my unit. 
I know what I and my friends would have done when we were 8 years old, if this switch had been there back then.  LOL
Unfortunately, if your inspector insists it be there, covering it up is probably not going to fly with them.
Maybe some sort of breakable cover, that a firefighter could break open, would be acceptable to them, but I don't see why a kid couldn't break it just as easily.


This is one of too many poorly thought through recent code additions.  Another that comes to mind is the removal of most GFCI exceptions, requiring even a single sump pump receptacle to be GFCI protected in case it is used for something else.  Of course the greater risk of a flooded home or basement with AC power on was ignored.  

A breakable, but sturdy cover is an option, especially if it isn't a brightly labeled attraction.  The local kids probably would not bother to bring tools to break it open.  If could, of course be added "unofficially" after inspection by the owner.  Another possible shutdown option could be a lockswitch operated by a "firefighter's key". 
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78buckshot
We have several hundred generator customers,  not once have we had any issue with tampering. Kids don't play outside anymore, it's too much physical activity for them. If your in a high crime area you might have bigger fish to fry then to worry about the generator shutdown switch. 
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Birken Vogt
I did have one a while back that called and said generator shut down in middle of night during outage, power was back when they woke up. 

Drove to site, reviewed history, found unit had been running, shut down unexpectedly, tried to crank itself up, failed, locked out eventually.

Gas valve was shut off.  Suspect meddling neighbor at 1am.  (Main breaker was also off.  Suspect neighbor tried that first but did not have the desired effect.)
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Goofy4TheWorld
Birken Vogt wrote:
I did have one a while back that called and said generator shut down in middle of night during outage, power was back when they woke up. 
Drove to site, reviewed history, found unit had been running, shut down unexpectedly, tried to crank itself up, failed, locked out eventually.
Gas valve was shut off.  Suspect meddling neighbor at 1am.  (Main breaker was also off.  Suspect neighbor tried that first but did not have the desired effect.)


This is why I have always used those really hard to turn gas valves that you usually have to turn with a wrench of some sort, They are kind of like a water meter cutoff, it may in theory be turnable by hand, but in reality it almost always needs a wrench.  They're not easy to find, but I seek them out just for this problem.  I may not stop a determined neighbor, but it will stop most bored kids.
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UPS
78buckshot wrote:
We have several hundred generator customers,  not once have we had any issue with tampering. Kids don't play outside anymore, it's too much physical activity for them. If your in a high crime area you might have bigger fish to fry then to worry about the generator shutdown switch. 


You are right about kids not playing outside anymore...  There probably aren't many that pay attention to generators, shutdown switches, etc. either.  However when the power fails, the only sounds in a neighborhood, other than traffic, are likely to be generators.  And the only lighted homes are those with a generator.  So if kids, being kids, decide to check out a generator, a labeled shut down switch is an invitation. 
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Cobranut


This is why I have always used those really hard to turn gas valves that you usually have to turn with a wrench of some sort, They are kind of like a water meter cutoff, it may in theory be turnable by hand, but in reality it almost always needs a wrench.  They're not easy to find, but I seek them out just for this problem.  I may not stop a determined neighbor, but it will stop most bored kids.


Probably a neighbor who didn't like the noise.
I can almost understand that.  If I lived in a neighborhood where the houses were close to each other, I'd probably be a little miffed at someone running their genset all night.  I'm out in the country, but I still shut mine down when we go to bed.  A couple modified UPS's take care of running the essential stuff overnight.
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UPS
Cobranut wrote:


Probably a neighbor who didn't like the noise.
I can almost understand that.  If I lived in a neighborhood where the houses were close to each other, I'd probably be a little miffed at someone running their genset all night.  I'm out in the country, but I still shut mine down when we go to bed.  A couple modified UPS's take care of running the essential stuff overnight.


Or offer the use of an exterior outlet, to which they can run an extension cord - hopefully not drawing too much current.   My neighbor with a large tropical fish aquarium knows he is free to connect if needed. 
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nrp3
Had a contractor call this week, his customers generator went out on over crank.  Went there and found the gas turned off. Customer figures his grandson probably turned it off.  
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